SAM sites nerf.

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all in favor to disable SAM sites against attack heli.

  • yes.

  • no.

  • fine either way.


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The sam sites are a plugin that is being used by the server. Disabling them would mean getting rid of the plugin. I can't vote on this topic, because I don't like or approve of the options that were given. To help make this better for you @cayde-6 , here are the options that I can modify for the Sam Sites. Maybe look at them and then recreate this poll addressing a different sort of nerf?

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We could probably lower the range in which they target, or reduce the damage multiplier. or increase the time between rocket bursts.
 
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i understand your point of view. you have to make it fair for all players on the server and i can respect that. if i may suggest lowering the range and damage as well as burst intervals of sams to half of their current value i think that would make it more fair, still useful but would need some help from a player to take out the heli. and possibly increase heli spawns?

the idea that someone turns on a switch and hides in a safe room watching the heli evaporate in 30 seconds just seems unfair for the rest of the players who also wants to fight it
 
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I believe most of the players on the server just want the heli dead, they don't care how it is done. Anyone who has been on this wipe for more than a day should have realized the heli mostly spawns in the NW or SE, and typically ends up around train yard. If you want to fight the heli, build a base there. Not everyone wants to fight the heli with guns, I personally think the heli is annoying, making players hide til it passes. I would rather have it removed from the game, the loot rarely makes it worth killing. Also, if the SAMs are nerfed, so what? I would just buy more to make up the difference. All I see a nerf accomplishing is making players spend more scrap, or forcing them to play a certain way.
 
each to their own right? you find the heli annoying and want it gone. i find the heli fun to fight because thats about the only thing that really puts up a fight on this server. and i know my entire group also agrees with me. but i can respect your pov as well. so how can we make this fair for everyone? i think one way would be to balance sams and increase the price of them. if you want to fight heli the "easy way" then pay the price upfront. another option would be to increase heli spawns. that way more chances to fight him for the people that want to fight him. its just really annoying when the heli spawns after 2 hrs and gets shoot down immediatly only to wait another 2 hrs to repeat the cycle.
 
I understand you and your group want a better chance to fight the heli, but the simple way to solve the whole issue is for you, at least for this wipe, to build a base near train yard with a view of the NW harbor and you will get almost every heli that spawns. It's all about location, if you want to fight it move to where it typically spawns or goes to. You see it come in suicide and spawn at the base closest to fight it. Again, nerfing the SAMs will only force players to spend more scrap, fight it how you want to, or hide from it. When all you have to do is build a base in a better location. Even with nerfed SAMs it will still be shot down with SAMs. I play a lot, raising the price and nerfing won't affect me, it will only hurt the newer players.
 
I would not mind an increase in heli spawns, but I think it would go back to affecting the newer players. Making them spend more time hiding or dying.
 
we can sit here and discuss it back and forth and get nowhere. you got your ideal gameplay and i have mine. i will just leave it up to the admins to decide what they want to do with it
 
each to their own right? you find the heli annoying and want it gone. i find the heli fun to fight because thats about the only thing that really puts up a fight on this server. and i know my entire group also agrees with me. but i can respect your pov as well. so how can we make this fair for everyone? i think one way would be to balance sams and increase the price of them. if you want to fight heli the "easy way" then pay the price upfront. another option would be to increase heli spawns. that way more chances to fight him for the people that want to fight him. its just really annoying when the heli spawns after 2 hrs and gets shoot down immediatly only to wait another 2 hrs to repeat the cycle.

Increasing the price of sams is not possible unless we find a plugin that allows us to control prices at static vendors.
we can sit here and discuss it back and forth and get nowhere. you got your ideal gameplay and i have mine. i will just leave it up to the admins to decide what they want to do with it
You need to recreate this thread with better polling options.
 

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